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Windows Updater service degraded?

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I'm trying to install Windows 10 on two PC's with Win7. Updating first at least trying to. Both PC's (different brands, different processors etc.) just sit for hours on end "checking for updates". After several hours one finally connected and I got a list of recommended updates.

These PC's had not been updated in several months so the number of updates was about 70. I took the bait and updated. That was a waste of time (again) because the updates had to be rolled back as they were...

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